Hello from Josquin

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  1. Josquin

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    Hi everybody,

    I'm writing from exile as I have been given some sort of time-out over at HTLAL just because of a silly debate about Russian politics. Anyway, here I am! It's nice to see so many well-known faces in a new guise.

    As most of you will know, I'm focusing on three languages at the moment: Russian, Irish, and Japanese, but I have also been dabbling in a number of languages without getting very far with them.

    I have been studying Russian for two years now, completed a Langenscheidt course and Colloquial Russian, and am currently dealing with Colloquial Russian 2 and native materials. Until recently, I was Captain of Team Катюша over at HTLAL, but this is suspended for the time being. I would like to visit Russia, although I'm not too happy with what's going on over there right now, but that's another topic.

    I have been studying Irish for a year now. I originally started studying Scottish Gaelic, but after a trip to Dublin and Cork I decided to switch over to Irish. It's a truly beatiful language, very complicated, but I love it. Unfortunately, there aren't many great resources, so I take what I can. I have finished Colloquial Irish and Gaeilge gan Stró and I'm now working on Gaeilge gan Stró 2 and Learning Irish. Additionally, I have Living Language Irish, but it's still sitting on my shelf.

    Last but not least, there's Japanese, another crazy-beautiful language. I have been studying it for about one and a half years now and I'm still not very good at it. I have finished the first volume of Genki and am now dealing with Genki 2. I have also worked with Colloquial Japanese, but left it after the first half, because the learning curve was to steep. I might get back to it sooner or later, though. I'd love to go to Japan, but unfortunately travelling to Japan is quite expensive, so I'll have to save some money before I can go there.

    Anyway, nice to meet you all! I'm looking forward to interesting discussions. See you!
  2. Wise owl chick

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    Hi Josquin

    Herzlich Willkommen. du bist deutscher, oder?

    You have time out, this is a new thing on htlal. I was banned there without warning and without justificaiton.

    When I was kuikentje, a person has voted for my posts, but some moderators (I think fasuly, New York eric and patuco) have decided that nobody would vote for my posts therefore I have hacked the voter's account for vote for myself. They banned me and deleted my posts. they didn't ask the voter or me. I think that they have deleted my posts for prevenet that others ask about me. They have quickly forgotten.

    I don't study the same langauges but good luck, they are all interesting ones.
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  3. Big_Dog

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    Welcome Josquin, nice to have you here.
    Yeah, it's crazy how some texts don't seem to realize how they have gone from "manageable" to "just about impossible" over the course of a chapter or two. Genki 2 is probably a better choice. Also, there is always the cheaper alternative Japanese for Everyone.
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    Welcome to Polydog. :)
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    Welcome to the forum, Josquin! Soooo, good to see you here. As you will see we have quite a nice Russian environment here, as several of us learn the language, and I am sure that you will have a great time here :)
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  6. Josquin

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    Ja, ich bin Deutscher! Vielen Dank für das herzliche Willkommen, kuikentje! Ich kann mich noch gut daran erinnern, als du bei HTLAL warst.

    Thanks for your heartfelt welcome, everybody! I don't know how much I will use this forum, but as long as I'm banned from HTLAL, this will be my exile. Maybe, I'll also back up my log here.
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  7. Wise owl chick

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    Bitte sehr und das ist toll, danke :)

    I hope that you will visit polydog often. :)

    The hthal dictators New York Eric, Rhian, et al will be upset if you leave because they love to delete, ban and especially secretely ban where your profile has "active" but you can't log in or access your PMs. Those evil mods don't learn langauges at all, but they visit htlal for their power. Iversen is the only good and just moderator there, but when he's on vacation it's truly a visitor killing time YIKES :eek:
  8. Josquin

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    YES!!! That's exactly what happened to me! I can log into my account, but I can't post anything and I can't access my PMs. I suppose Rhian (whom I had never seen on the forum before) deactivated my account, because I kept on quarreling with Марк after he had told us to stop discussing. Iversen obviously doesn't know anything about it (Cristina asked him) and even newyorkeric doesn't seem to know about it, because he told me to stop discussing when my account was already restricted.

    Anyway, I think it's outrageous that regular members of the forum are being treated this way! I feel like a naughty schoolchild and not like a respected member of the community. But the most outrageous part is that I only made use of what I perceive is my "householder's right" as captain of the Russian TAC team in our team log. I dared to criticize Putin's politics, which was problematic because politics is a no-go at HTLAL. But sometimes you simply can't ignore it, especially when people are crying "hooray" for the Russian Victory Day, which is a) the day when Stalin usurped all of Eastern Europe and b) the day when Putin officially usurped Crimea.

    So, I uttered my honest opinion, which obviously offended Марк, who went berserk because my posts (which were true, but inconvenient) hadn't been deleted after two days. After that, my posts were deleted behind my back without any discussion or notice - and that in the team thread I was hosting! This was so offensive and outrageous to me that I resigned from my office as captain. As I dared to criticize the moderators' decisions in my notice of resignment, I obviously was banned by one of them although my account is officially still active.

    I hope one of the more sensible moderators will have the mercy to reactivate my account rather sooner than later, because I really miss the community and I don't want to register with a new account and start from scratch! And I know that, if the forum knew about this, there would be an outrage, because Марк is the true troll while I'm (as Cristina put it) "a pillar of the HTLAL community".
  9. Wise owl chick

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    Josquin

    Then you are banned, I think. I was banned like this sometimes, therefore the other nice visitors didn't know. The people woldnt know that you are banned, only if they read your posts here. It is absolutely evil, nasty, disgusting and unjust.

    When they ban a person, they better put "inactive" or "banned" but they don't, mostly. They should NOT the secret, hidden thing. They have done this secret method 564739830-3736353 billion times. The other visitors havent an idea AT ALL about the evil liar mods.

    A ban better be after a warning and by all the mods, then only after truly terrible things. But it is not on thtla but always by one mod who doesn;t like you. (You, ich meine << man >>, nicht "du").

    Rhian is truly horrible and stupid person. She banned me one time because I've said that English and French are imperialistic langauges. She doesn't like the word 'imperialistic'. I don't like the word 'Rhian' LOL. It was a conversation and I have written it because it is my opinion, and it's the histoyr also, during the western european empires and conquoring, the langauges were spread, also Spanish. If Rhian doesn't know that her country had the 'world's greatest empire' then she is aboslultey ignorant. I hate empires but I didn't say this.

    I don't think that they can reactivate your account. When I was banned as kuikentje becuase other visitor had voted for me, but some moderators have thought I had hacked his account for vote for myself (COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE OR I WOULD RECEIVE 453273802302725242527 TRILLION DOLLARS FROM THE FBI fFOR WORK FOR THEM) Iversen has tried to reactivate my account but it was not possible.

    Josquin, I am very, very sorry that they've banned you. I know that it feel truly nasty and make feel so upset and excluded, and that they don't want that you visit.
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  10. Penelope

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    I saw your status there and you appear as an active account, at least as I speak. Is this misleading?

    I can't believe someone banned you. I didn't see a ban for the other member of the debate. If I hadn't checked out this forum I wouldn't have known at all...
  11. Wise owl chick

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    Hi Penlope

    I know that you talk with Josquin, but I know the asnwer: you can't know if Marc is banned or not. You can only know if he post. Then you will know that he's not banned. If he doesn't write more posts then he is banned or he's left.

    This is how htlal ban mostly. They make it impossible for the person to post or access their own PMs. But the other visitors think that the person isn't banned because on the profile is "active"

    This is the ban method since 2008. It is horrible, I was banned like this and it feel so bad. Fortuanetly, now with polydog Josquin has showed the others that he can't post, btu for all the other banned ones (very,very many people) it wasn't possible and nobody has discovered.

    The moderators can do this secret ban alone, mostly it is like this, that for example New York eric or Rhian sectrely ban a person. Then the other mods don't know.

    I know this because when I was Jar-Ptitsa, I was secretely banned in about 2009, but I've told my friends moderators by email (Iversen, Jiwon, also Hencke was a good mod) but they didn't know about the ban at all. Then my last nick was kuikentje and my profile is "active" but the same that Josquin, I can't post or access my PMs. Then later, I think that I was banned the "inactive" method, but wihtout warning or explanaiton. Probably by patuco because he hated me.

    I hope that you believe me.
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  12. Josquin

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    Hi Penelope! Nice to see you here at PolyDog! Yes, officially my account is still active, but it's restricted in its rights. I can still log in and see all posts (except the Senior Member's Forum and the Technical Room), but I can't write anything and I can't access my PMs. So, while the account seems to be active, actually it isn't.

    Well, Iversen tried to reactivate my account and did all he could, but it didn't work. He also asked the other moderators if one of them had punished me, but apparently no one did. Iversen suspects that there might be an automatism triggering the "secret banning" when you're being reported too often in a very short time. As Mark went absolutely berserk because of our political discussion, I suspect he reported all of my political posts and thus triggered the automatism. Probably, the only one who could do anything about it would be the Admin, but as we all know he hasn't been active in ages, so there's probably no hope for my old profile.

    I have now created a new profile with the name of Lassus, but unfortunately that means I'll lose all my posts, votes, and PMs and I'll have to start from scratch as a newbie. That's very disappointing and inconvenient, but apparently there's no other way. Plus, I'm really upset about Mark's behaviour. He's incapable of a friendly, neutral discussion and keeps trolling all people he doesn't like. In my opinion, he's the one who should be banned, but of course I can't say that over at HTLAL...
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  13. Wise owl chick

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    They didn't ADMIT. They don't want to explain why. They never explain why. But yes, before it was an automatic banning, after 3 reports. But this was stopped or possibly made more (higher number I mean).

    Can Iversen discover if Marc is banned?

    On htlal it's absolutely banned to express your opinion, only if the mods agree with you is it accepted. It's North Korea in a forum. Or the Chile disappearances, forum style. Of course I know that it's only a forum, but I make some comparisons with some real countries where the treatment is the same but in 'real life'. It's where the general population don't know or don't care about the police's behavoioiur. They are happy because it maintain such a gentile manner where the nasty arguments are banned...only a certain type of person is welcome...

    Iversen is wonderful, we are friends. But yes, only the evil liar admin there has the ability to un-ban.
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    Now I've seen that you've posted many times as Lassus.

    You will be ok, for sure. They have certain people they want and others they don't. They don't want me there :( i must accept this, I know. I suppose now you won't write here much. Viel Glück und Erfolg, du bist nett und ich hoffe, dass alles gut mit deiner Musik geht. Tschüßi.
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    Only Josquin was banned, I can tell you that.

    Hopefully he will soon get his old account back, but even with a new account we'll be there for him :)
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    Isn't creating a new account against the rules ? At any rate I would refuse to cower.
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    No, Iversen explicitly asked me to create a new account, because there was nothing left he could do for the old one. He tried everything, but nothing worked. The only person who could un-ban me would be the Admin, but, as he has lost interest in the forum, he probably won't care. I have asked Iversen if he could contact the Admin, but I'm still waiting for a reply.

    Anyway, I'm willing to accept my fate (theatralically speaking) although it's a pity to lose the status as Senior Member, all my votes, and the PMs I have collected over the years. Being a newbie on HTLAL sucks, because you can't post links, write PMs, or view the Senior Members' Room, so I'm seriously thinking about buying a Pro Membership, which I refused to do over the last years.
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  18. biTsar

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    A Pro membership won't prevent you from being banned, but if you walk on eggshells all the time and become (in temperament) someone else who you are not you'll be fine. Just don't be you too much.
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  19. Josquin

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    I beg your pardon, but you must have misunderstood me. I'm not considering becoming a Pro Member out of fear of being banned again. I need it in order to have full access to all functions on HTLAL which aren't accessible to newbies.

    I'm not in the least afraid of being banned again, because Iversen clearly stated none of the moderators had banned me. It must have been the automatic ban, triggered by reports from Mark who went berserk because of my comments on Putin.

    I'll certainly never again discuss Russian politics on HTLAL, that's for sure! But other than that I'm not afraid of being banned again. I haven't been banned in three years! On the contrary, I'm a committed, valuable member of the forum, of which I have been assured by Cristina, Penelope, Iversen, and other members of the community.

    Mark is the real problem: trolling people because of mistakes in their Russian and because of their political views. I have never seen such a narrow-minded, misanthropic person! I don't know how many discussions there have been about Russian soft consonants or spelling rules where Mark kept on lamenting about tiny details, how bad all resources for Russian are, and that no one understands him.

    He simply doesn't realize that the way he is behaving creates all the trouble, because he keeps pointing out every tiniest mistake, sees people who disagree with him as his enemies, and wraps his critique in bitter sarcasm. Additionally, he has problems expressing himself freely in English, so every now and then he'll switch to Russian, which doesn't help either.

    Once again, I wouldn't have been able to say this freely on HTLAL, but I'm okay with that. I know how to behave there, but unfortunately Mark sometimes drives me crazy. So, I'll probably have to train my diplomatic skills and hide my views in kindness.
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    My mistake. Also, I should have pasted a smiley face at the end of my comments, I meant no harshness towards you.

    I don't fault the forum for having rules, and accept that the moderators actions are most likely taken in good faith as they see it. But in some way I also wonder if the blunt tools they have at their disposal plus the overall milieu hasn't in effect created a replication of some Philip Zimbardo experiment in group behaviour. Seems to me that at least some of the folks who have been banned were also some of the more lively and interesting participants, and I don't know that it was anyone's conscious intent to rid the forum of a wide spectrum of human expression, knowing in advance that certain personality types will always create some unavoidable friction in some while having no effect upon others.

    I'm sad to hear of the difficulty with the site's software, that must be frustrating.

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