Ok, the forum is not friendly when it comes to adding languages to the native, advanced, intermediate and basic lists. As our Administrator suggested in a message, we should put together a list of languages that would be sufficient for most of us so that the Administrator would be spared of redoing the list one piece at a time to keep it alphabetically ordered (because now it's a mess) every week. So, which languages should definitely be included in the wave one, which ones do you think will be needed: (most of these are already there but many aren't) English, German, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Icelandic, Dutch Finnish, Hungarian French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, Catalan, Basque Russian, Polish, Czech, Slovak, Croatian, Ukrainian Latin, Ancient Greek, Modern Greek, Hebrew, Ancient Egyptian Arabic (perhaps a few options for dialects?), Persian, Turkish Japanese, Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, Thai, Swahili Irish, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic
Esperanto is missing in this list of suggestions. If I have other language suggestions, I will add them in this post.
I combined Cavesa's list with the existing list, then filled out the top 100 using wikipedia's most spoken languages. I updated the "native language" option to reflect this. Tomorrow I will try to update the remaining 3 lists. I will be glad to add languages after that, but they will go to the bottom of the list for the time being, because there is no easy way to sort it. There's a chance the software will get friendlier, or I will buy an add-on in the future that will make this sort of thing much easier. If that happens, I'll probably add a lot more choices, and make it easier to select languages. Anyway, here is what should be in the native language list: (edit - I will keep updating this list as I add more languages. It's in alphabetical order here, but the actual list you select from in your profile info might not be) Afrikaans Akkadian Albanian Amharic Arabic_Egyptian Arabic_Levantine Arabic_Maghrebi Arabic_MSA ASL Awadhi Azerbaijani Basque Bavarian Belarusian Bengali Bhojpuri Burmese Cantonese Catalan Cebuano Chinese_classical Corsican Croatian Czech Danish Dutch Egyptian_ancient English Esperanto Estonian Filipino Finnish French Fula Galician German Greek_ancient Greek_modern Gujarati Haitian_Creole Hakka Hausa Hebrew_clasical Hebrew_modern Hindi Hungarian Icelandic Igbo Indonesian Irish Italian Japanese Javanese Jin Kannada Khmer Korean Lahnda Lao_Isan Latin Latvian Lithuanian Maithili Malay Malayalam Maltese Mandarin Manx Marathi Min_Nan Mongolian Nepali Northern_Berber Norwegian Ojibwe Oriya Oromo Pashto Persian Polish Portuguese Punjabi Romanian Romansh Russian Scots Scottish_Gaelic Serbo_Croatian Sicilian Sindhi Slovak Somali Southern_Quechua Spanish Sundanese Swahili Swedish Tamil Tatar Telugu Thai Turkish Ukrainian Urdu Uzbek Vietnamese Welsh Wu Xiang Yoruba
Nice one! I think Hebrew should be divided as biblical and modern just like Greek. And there is at least one htlaler who learns Akkadian but I have no clue whether he's gonna join us here or how many others need it on the list.
Alright, I added those languages to the native language list, and I updated advanced languages. I'm brain-dead right now, so the last 2 lists will have to be done tomorrow.
Is there some reason Classical Chinese isn't included along side the other ancient languages? It would also be nice to see who else is learning it for the sake of seeking assistance or collaboration, and there isn't necessarily a 1:1 correlation between Mandarin learners and Classical Chinese learners.
I added classical Chinese to the bottom of the native language and advanced language lists, then I updated the intermediate and basic lists. So I'm done for now. I'll be glad to add additional languages to the bottom of the lists immediately. At some future date, I'll sort lists so that any languages that were added to the bottom will be in alphabetical order.
When I went to an Esperanto conference, my wife started using Pig Latin with our niece. Do we need Pig Latin?
How many Filipino dialects would you like to include? To be fair, usefulness starts dropping off after the first 2. edit: I have no intention of studying anything but the first 2 for many years. # of speakers Tagalog22,000,000 Cebuano21,000,000 Ilocano7,700,000 Hiligaynon7,000,000 Waray-Waray3,100,000 Kapampangan2,900,000 Northern Bicol[12]2,500,000 Pangasinan2,434,086 Southern Bicol[13]1,200,000 Chavacano1,200,000 Meranaw1,150,000 Maguindanao1,100,000 Kinaray-a1,051,000 Tausug1,022,000 Surigaonon1,000,000 Masbateño530,000 Aklanon520,000 Ibanag320,000 Español2,000
For some that is undoubtedly true. But even Ibanag has more speakers than many of the languages others think are just dandy to study. A language with few speakers has disadvantages but still presents inexhaustible opportunities.
I'm only familiar with Cebuano, Tagalog, Waray, and Chavacano. The first three are sisters. Grammar is almost the same, and allot of Waray is Ceubano with consonant shifts. Sometimes in confusing ways. Cebuano: dili=not, diri=here Waray: dili=here Chavacano, baring some differences, is an uninfected form of Spanish. edit: oops, inflected I would dive more into these, but then I lose focus
What is the deciding factor for what's included in the list and what's not? I guess I can understand why something like Ojibwe isn't listed due to the very low number of speakers, but, say Galician, with some 3 million speakers isn't listed either. R. ==