One of the other members mentioned not liking Anki as in finding it boring, an opinion shared by many on HTLAL too it seems. Since I do like Anki enough to use it, and have been using it intensively for a year to support both courses and extensive reading, I have some questions for those who don't like either Anki or wordlists. 1) Do you already possess the vocabulary necessary to comfortably read a general interest newspaper (i.e. 98%+ coverage for English)? 2) If not, how do you plan to acquire that vocabulary, assuming you are interested in reading a newspaper in addition to other passive or active activities in a L2? 3) How long, as in how many hours per day for how many months/years do you think it will take to acquire that vocabulary? 4) How much time per day on average do you spend on extensive/intensive reading and listening? For me, Anki seems to be the most optimal manner to acquire the vocabulary I need, in the shortest amount of time, so that my extensive activities can hopefully focus on learning grammar and usage minimally impeded by decoding the meaning of words (I do use pop-up dictionary in extensive reading but don't record new words). But perhaps others prefer longer use of more intensive activities or such. I would appreciate knowing the answers to these questions from other self-learners, because though I use Anki so much, I do have a love-hate relationship with it. If I thought there were a more optimal approach time-wise I would be willing to consider it. Note that the above assumes Anki equivalent to Iversen style word lists, and questions are posed to those who don't use either much, instead of the questions relating to Anki vs wordlists.